Discussion:
Marking all time as busy.
Caroline Couture
2005-04-08 13:15:31 UTC
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Hi Folks!

We are using MM 7.2.1 on an all windows platform. We recently connected to a MM
hub in our location. Because of this we expect more users to try and create more
cross server meetings.

One user does not schedule meetings via MM but she does have an account for
proxy access to sechdule appointments for others.

Is there anyway to mark all of her time as busy so that she shows up as busy if
someone tries to propose a meeting with her?

Is there anyway to make a users totally unavailable?

I've not used anything but the basic MM features and I don't know or see how to
do this in the docs.

Thanks!
Caroline


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Steve Burling
2005-04-08 13:27:03 UTC
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--On April 8, 2005 9:15:31 AM -0400 Caroline Couture
<***@POBOX.UPENN.EDU> wrote:

> Is there anyway to mark all of her time as busy so that she shows up as
> busy if someone tries to propose a meeting with her?

To which I reply:

Just have her schedule an all-day meeting that repeats forever.

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Charles F. Engle
2005-04-08 13:33:55 UTC
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How about going into User Info and marking all days as Off Day?

Quoting Caroline Couture <***@POBOX.UPENN.EDU>:

> Hi Folks!
>
> We are using MM 7.2.1 on an all windows platform. We recently connected to a
> MM
> hub in our location. Because of this we expect more users to try and create
> more
> cross server meetings.
>
> One user does not schedule meetings via MM but she does have an account for
> proxy access to sechdule appointments for others.
>
> Is there anyway to mark all of her time as busy so that she shows up as busy
> if
> someone tries to propose a meeting with her?
>
> Is there anyway to make a users totally unavailable?
>
> I've not used anything but the basic MM features and I don't know or see how
> to
> do this in the docs.
>
> Thanks!
> Caroline
>
>
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Ian Eiloart
2005-04-08 13:36:31 UTC
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--On April 8, 2005 09:27:03 -0400 Steve Burling <***@UMICH.EDU> wrote:

> --On April 8, 2005 9:15:31 AM -0400 Caroline Couture
> <***@POBOX.UPENN.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Is there anyway to mark all of her time as busy so that she shows up as
>> busy if someone tries to propose a meeting with her?
>
> To which I reply:
>
> Just have her schedule an all-day meeting that repeats forever.

Or a non-flexible banner that goes on to 2039.


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Stephen Treger
2005-04-08 14:37:29 UTC
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Wanted to air this on the list first because it is our Director.
User received a new machine, tech just copied over the Palm Desktop
software from old machine, so it worked but did not have the conduits for
Meeting Maker, and naturally HotSync didn't work.

Unfortunately it has been a couple of weeks now... the Director might have
sync her handheld at home as well, plus possibly added content.

So the basic method here would be to reinstall Palm Desktop 4.x
Then reinstall Meeting Maker with the Datebook conduit.

Would this result in duplicates? I recall with older versions of MM
conduits the index file was not retained - but with v7.5 would I be safe
just doing a sync?

Zeroing the handheld database and syncing would get it meshed with Meeting
Maker, but she would lose any manually entered schedule info.

Configuring the conduit to overwrite handheld is another option.

So I am looking for the optimum solution here, and where it might fail.


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Raoul Armfield
2005-04-08 15:03:07 UTC
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Stephen Treger wrote:
> Wanted to air this on the list first because it is our Director.
> User received a new machine, tech just copied over the Palm Desktop
> software from old machine, so it worked but did not have the conduits
> for Meeting Maker, and naturally HotSync didn't work.
>
> Unfortunately it has been a couple of weeks now... the Director might
> have sync her handheld at home as well, plus possibly added content.
>
> So the basic method here would be to reinstall Palm Desktop 4.x
> Then reinstall Meeting Maker with the Datebook conduit.
>
> Would this result in duplicates? I recall with older versions of MM
> conduits the index file was not retained - but with v7.5 would I be safe
> just doing a sync?

My understanding is that the ID files are kept on the Palm itself so
IIRC there should not be an issue with duplicates.

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Bob DeSilets
2005-04-08 15:08:48 UTC
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If there are duplicates, that's why there is Undupe
(http://www.stevenscreek.com/palm/undupe.html). It's solved that type of
problem for me on multiple occasions.

Bob


On 4/8/05 11:03 AM, "Raoul Armfield" <***@AMNH.ORG> wrote:

> Stephen Treger wrote:
>> Wanted to air this on the list first because it is our Director.
>> User received a new machine, tech just copied over the Palm Desktop
>> software from old machine, so it worked but did not have the conduits
>> for Meeting Maker, and naturally HotSync didn't work.
>>
>> Unfortunately it has been a couple of weeks now... the Director might
>> have sync her handheld at home as well, plus possibly added content.
>>
>> So the basic method here would be to reinstall Palm Desktop 4.x
>> Then reinstall Meeting Maker with the Datebook conduit.
>>
>> Would this result in duplicates? I recall with older versions of MM
>> conduits the index file was not retained - but with v7.5 would I be safe
>> just doing a sync?
>
> My understanding is that the ID files are kept on the Palm itself so
> IIRC there should not be an issue with duplicates.

Robert L. DeSilets, Jr.
Sr. IT Support Specialist
ISC Provider Desk
***@isc.upenn.edu
215-898-0067


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Stephen Treger
2005-04-08 15:19:16 UTC
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Yes, a certain Manager let her Palm (Clie) go dead. No problem she
thought, just charge it up and sync from home.
Well when she came to work and sync'ed it duped everything. If she had
sync at work FIRST then home it would not have duplicated.
So yes I sent her off to buy UnDupe, best $10-$15 utility out there.

In this case I don't want to be the one to screw up and tell the Director
to spend [even a pidly $15].

At 11:08 AM 4/8/2005 -0400, Bob DeSilets wrote:
>If there are duplicates, that's why there is Undupe
>(http://www.stevenscreek.com/palm/undupe.html). It's solved that type of
>problem for me on multiple occasions.
>
>Bob
>
>
>On 4/8/05 11:03 AM, "Raoul Armfield" <***@AMNH.ORG> wrote:
>
> > Stephen Treger wrote:
> >> Wanted to air this on the list first because it is our Director.
> >> User received a new machine, tech just copied over the Palm Desktop
> >> software from old machine, so it worked but did not have the conduits
> >> for Meeting Maker, and naturally HotSync didn't work.
> >>
> >> Unfortunately it has been a couple of weeks now... the Director might
> >> have sync her handheld at home as well, plus possibly added content.
> >>
> >> So the basic method here would be to reinstall Palm Desktop 4.x
> >> Then reinstall Meeting Maker with the Datebook conduit.
> >>
> >> Would this result in duplicates? I recall with older versions of MM
> >> conduits the index file was not retained - but with v7.5 would I be safe
> >> just doing a sync?
> >
> > My understanding is that the ID files are kept on the Palm itself so
> > IIRC there should not be an issue with duplicates.
>
>Robert L. DeSilets, Jr.
>Sr. IT Support Specialist
>ISC Provider Desk
>***@isc.upenn.edu
>215-898-0067
>
>
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Raoul Armfield
2005-04-08 15:29:46 UTC
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Stephen Treger wrote:
> Yes, a certain Manager let her Palm (Clie) go dead. No problem she
> thought, just charge it up and sync from home.
> Well when she came to work and sync'ed it duped everything. If she had
> sync at work FIRST then home it would not have duplicated.
> So yes I sent her off to buy UnDupe, best $10-$15 utility out there.
>
> In this case I don't want to be the one to screw up and tell the
> Director to spend [even a pidly $15].

The problem in this scenario is that she let her palm go dead. Thus
deleting all the ID files that tells MM what has been synced and what is
new, thus treating it all as new. As long as your director did not do a
hard reset either by letting the battery die or through the keycombo on
the palm itself, you don't need to worry about dupes.

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IT-Call Center
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New York, New York 10024-5192
(212) 313-7258

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David A. Woyciesjes
2005-04-08 15:49:50 UTC
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At 10:37 AM 4/8/2005, Stephen Treger wrote:
>Wanted to air this on the list first because it is our Director.
>User received a new machine, tech just copied over the Palm Desktop
>software from old machine, so it worked but did not have the conduits for
>Meeting Maker, and naturally HotSync didn't work.
>
>Unfortunately it has been a couple of weeks now... the Director might have
>sync her handheld at home as well, plus possibly added content.
>
>So the basic method here would be to reinstall Palm Desktop 4.x
>Then reinstall Meeting Maker with the Datebook conduit.
>
>Would this result in duplicates? I recall with older versions of MM
>conduits the index file was not retained - but with v7.5 would I be safe
>just doing a sync?
>
>Zeroing the handheld database and syncing would get it meshed with Meeting
>Maker, but she would lose any manually entered schedule info.
>
>Configuring the conduit to overwrite handheld is another option.
>
>So I am looking for the optimum solution here, and where it might fail.
>
>
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>

Reinstalling Palm Desktop over the top of the old copied install
should retain all of her settings. Sync'ing should be fine.
If the Handheld has all of the current correct info, you could
also just set the HotSync Manager to have the Handheld overwrite what is in
MeetingMaker.


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Dennis Bishop
2005-04-08 19:28:34 UTC
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Hi All,

I ran across this thread on <http://www.macintouch.com> which talks
about Apple's internal infrastructure. One bit caught my eye:

"...uses Meetingmaker to work with employee iCal."

Does this mean that I can use iCal as a client to directly access
Meeting Maker? If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know.

Best,

Dennis
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Ian Eiloart
2005-04-11 09:38:37 UTC
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--On April 8, 2005 12:28:34 -0700 Dennis Bishop <***@LAW.UOREGON.EDU>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I ran across this thread on <http://www.macintouch.com> which talks about
> Apple's internal infrastructure. One bit caught my eye:
>
> "...uses Meetingmaker to work with employee iCal."
>
> Does this mean that I can use iCal as a client to directly access Meeting
> Maker? If anyone knows how to do this, please let me know.

That's hard to tell, why don't use send us a link to the article, so that
we can judge the context.

AFAIK, you can't do what you are asking about. It is possible that
macintouch are making the common mistake of abbreviating iCalendar as iCal.

It is true that Apple are a Meeting Maker customer.

There is an apple script available for iCal to import Meeting Maker text
export. I extended it to then run iSync, to get Meeting Maker data into my
phone. I also have the OS watch my Meeting Maker export folder, so all I
have to do is generate the text export. Can't do that automatically, I'm
afraid.

However, iCal can't talk to the Meeting Maker server, or easily put data
back into Meeting Maker. It might be possible to use the Arrival API to
create a webdav server which would permit this, though.

> Best,
>
> Dennis
> _______________________________________
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> Director of Information & Technology
> University of Oregon School of Law
> Room 280 Law Center
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